I, Lucifer
As if i didn’t already have enough of a crush on our darling demon, i have this to which i can look forward.
Daniel Craig, who is (in my opinion) the hottest Bond ever, will be playing the role of Lucifer in 2009’s I, Lucifer, based on the novel by Glen Duncan. I just ordered the book, which is saying something, since I rarely have time to read anymore, given my ungodly (heh) schedule.
This is what happens when you write stories where you make heroes of demons. Be still my silly little romantic heart. i’ll let you know what i think of the book. The opening sentence alone has me wriggling.
“I, Lucifer, Fallen Angel, Prince Of Darkness, Bringer of Light, Ruler of Hell, Lord of the Flies, Father of Lies, Apostate Supreme, Tempter of Mankind, Old Serpent, Prince of This World, Seducer, Accuser, Tormentor, Blasphemer, and without a doubt Best Fuck in the Seen and Unseen Universe (ask Eve, that minx) have decided – oo la la! – to tell all.”
(And why … why … can i hear you saying at least that last part?)
Lilith would be a better judge.
Lou-cifer,
You’ll have to get with Mr. Duncan on that.
elise
Like you, I also think Daniel Craig is hot as hell is assumed to be. I am enamored of faces with a lived-in look, lots of grooves and angles for light and shadow to play upon, the reality of crinkles at the eyes that are proof of emotion and the strength of character to express it, and a well toned, obviously well used body. I watched Casino Royale again several nights ago, and…dayuumm, he made me sweat (not prespire like a lady). He was also deliciously evil in the cameo role of priest/assassin in the first season of Showtime’s “The Tudors.”
If the first sentence in “I, Lucifer” indicates the full content, that will be a delicious book, but I almost wish you hadn’t mentioned it. I read too much now, and read rapidly, which means my book budget was way over quota about 20 years ago.
Kaz ~
i’ll let you know if i think you can save your money or go further into debt. i’m salivating with impatience.
elise
Lilith has been unfairly judged, and rendered (in the literary sense).
And this particular Lucifer sounds rather … immature.
Beth,
Ohgosh. i hope not. i am in love with that first sentence. i’m deliberately staying away from reviews, blogs, chats, and any form of discussion because i have already decided to love this book, purely based on a talk i had with someone.
i was being a bit placating with him regarding the possibility of a relationship, and said, in a slightly condescending tone, “i mean, don’t get me wrong, i’m sure you’re a good fuck, and all.”
He interrupted me right then and there and came back with, “No, elise. I am a fantastic fuck,” which rendered me quite speechless and a bit breathless.
Because, you see, i had no reason to not believe him.
elise
Oh my, i might now have a Lucifer crush myself. Daniel Craig is hot whether it’s Bond or whatever. The body, yes, but the voice…
Mmm hmm.
~dreamy faraway look~
i should have paid for overnight shipping.
elise
I’m with Beth on Lilith.
Eve could not hold a candle to her. Brains, beauty, and will.
What an enticing…
project.
Eve was a childish muppet (which of course is why the church promoted her, rather than Lilith).
~hands on hips, glaring~
Stop ruining my first sentence, Lou-cifer. This isn’t about Eve or Lilith. It’s about me.
And Lucifer.
elise
But where would Lucifer be without the women? Ooo! Lucifer and David! Now that would be luscious.
Lou — Lilith to Mary wouldn’t hold up very well, now would it? *bemused* Whereas Eve to Mary is all very tidy.
Of course, history, religion, and the human capacity to use story and spirituality to further their own ends is rarely tidy, underneath.
Apologies for the hijack, elise.
Hijack away, Beth.
i actually have a rather good idea where Lucifer would be without the women. Effin’ sadists.
elise
Oh, you make me laugh. Effin’ sadists?? Bless.
Only if you see Lucifer strictly as a sadist, Beth. I would argue that Lucifer is as much a dom as he is a sadist.
I doubt seriously that my namesake would give a rat’s ass about Eve or Mary, one way or the other.
Domination is about strength of will. It’s about conquest. There is as much glory, as much honor, as much victory in conquest of the kitchen mop as there is in conquest of those two muppets.
It’s true that they would serve some small need for his sadistic tendencies, but they could easily be replaced by any bitch in a church pew. I wager his real interest would lie with Lilith, she who gave the finger both to Adam and to that unjustifiably arrogant Yaweh the All-Powerful Sun God. She would be a worthy trophy.
It would also explain why Yaweh is such a whiny prick in the mythologies. Yaweh is all powerful, and can just snap his fingers and make everyone do as he pleases, yes? Why does he not?
He understands the emptiness of domination of the weak. There is nothing to be gained there. Yet throughout the stories and legends, he tries repeatedly to dominate mankind, fails miserably because he’s such a wanker, then throws a temper tantrum like a five-year old and wipes everybody out who won’t submit.
And he is still unsatisfied. Why? Because he’s a clueless hack who cannot earn respect. He is weak and ineffectual. He is justifiably scorned and laughed at.
And he is indeed, in his own words, “a jealous god”. He is jealous of Lucifer. Lucifer is everything Yaweh wishes he was, but can never be, much like Lilith is everything that the Eve/Mary characters of the mythology can never be.
It is only from this perspective that the Judeo-Christian mythos is even worth reading. The common interpretation is tripe not even worthy of bird cage liner.
But then, I may be biased.
Lou-cifer
I seem to have gone off on a tangent and said more than I intended.
Apologies.
Oh, I’m not sure that I see Lucifer as much of a sadist at all, Lou. At least … *hesitates* … Joking aside, it truly isn’t a word I use freely or lightly. The man I’m involved with is a sadist. Lucifer … well, are we using the modern, Western version of the word? Feh. Words are slippery.
I’ve always preferred the complexity both Lilith and Lucifer represent … But then, I’ve always thought there had to have been so much more to Mary’s story, than ever got told.
I’ve a Mary story … p’raps I’ll post it sometime.
Lou FCD, i don’t know how elise feels about it, but i’m rather enjoying reading the discussion.
It had not occured to me until reading much of your writing on here elise, that one could so easily associate the heaven vs. hell spiritual world with sadism and masochism, D/s, etc. It is an obvious correlation now of course. And as in real life, there is just as much ambiguity. Rather intriguing, and possibly why i keep reading…it’s good when writers make one think.
I loved the tangent, Lou. I couldn’t agree more.
I also enjoyed the sentence you posted from the book, elise. Except would Lucifer really say oo la la! ??
i feel like the drunk chick who passed out at a party while everyone was continuing to party around her.
Beth,
i love making you laugh. And yes, please, on the Mary story.
Lou-cifer,
That’s a lot of words. Personally, i don’t see why Lucifer can’t be both a dominant AND a sadist, and i don’t see why he can’t have/use Eve, Mary, Lilith, or me, for that matter.
It’s been my experience that many sadists don’t much care who they hurt. It’s who they repeatedly hurt that matters. As for God/Yahweh/whomever, jealous or not, he can’t deny that sin is hot, and that Lucifer has cornered the market on exploiting that.
The interest, as always, comes down to the contrast. Soiled innocence, as it were. And there’s no need to apologize. my blog space has an open door policy for opinion. Mostly because i get to delete the ones i don’t like. ~smirk~
truth,
i’m cool with the discussion. And thank you. Heaven/Hell, good/evil, angel/demon, Master/slave. i like contrast. And i think i could make nearly anything about depravity, sex, and sin.
sassy,
i can’t wait to read the book. And i’ll let you know about the “oo la la” after i’ve read it. Or maybe i’ll wait to see if Daniel Craig says it in the movie.
There. All caught up.
elise
Getting a real kick from Lou with the Eve/Mary as Bimbo/Bimbett thought. And I’ve always thought religion in every form is strict S&M. Besides, all those biblical references about myths, superstitions and people are primarily about the creative minds of some guys/gals selling short stories and serials trying to earn a few coins to buy beer on Saturday night. It’s Bible as perversion anthology.
Kaz,
Lou-cifer is a kick, all right. ~fond smile~ And i’m grateful for religion and the Bible as perversion anthology. It’s what makes sin so hot.
elise
*bow to my appreciators and a smile to elise*
I’m not suggesting that Lucifer is not a sadist, but rather that sadism is only part of who he is.
Much like a little brother who breaks your favorite toy is not directing the punishment toward the toy per se, flaying alive Eve or Mary might have little to do with Eve or Mary. Pastor’s wife or Little Miss Silver Ring in the front pew would be a more than adequate replacement. They’re a dime a dozen and hardly worth a great deal of attention. An amusing distraction for a time at best.
But who to bed? That is another matter.
me, of course.
Thanks for the smile, Lou-cifer.
elise
You’re welcome, of course.
I’m glad to do it.